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the president of the united states barack obama in a speech at the united nations talked about the same issues. >> it's been less than two years since a vendor in tunesia set himself on fire to protest the oppressive corruption in his country. and sparked with what became known as the arab spring. and since then the world has been captivated by the transformation that has taken place. and the united states has supported the forces of change. we have taken these positions because we believe that freedom and self-determination are not unique to one culture. these are not simply american values or western values. they are uniform values. -- universal values. and even though there are huge challenges to come with the transition to democracy, i'm con finsed that-- convinced that ultimately government of the people, by the people and for the people is more likely to bring about the stability, prosperity and individual opportunity that serve as a basis for peace in our world. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> funding for char
the president of the united states barack obama in a speech at the united nations talked about the same issues. >> it's been less than two years since a vendor in tunesia set himself on fire to protest the oppressive corruption in his country. and sparked with what became known as the arab spring. and since then the world has been captivated by the transformation that has taken place. and the united states has supported the forces of change. we have taken these positions because we...
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. >> bill: rice is taking the heat for that the secretary of the united nations. it will be interesting to see who put her out there and told her to say what she said. >> very interesting. >> bill: possible that she said it on her own. it's not unheard of that a u.n. ambassador would do that most likely somebody said look, you have got to get out there and say x and y. hillary clinton is a very shrewd politician. she didn't say anything inadvertently one way or the other about the attack. i agree with you that the american intelligence agencies had to know it was hot over there in benghazi. certainly we could have done a better job protecting our people i'm not sure that hillary clinton was directly responsible for all of that. i'm saying that because of so much else on her plate. she is racing around in china. got iran. got israel. got all of that kind of stuff. i know i manage a very small operation compared to her. and i don't know what everybody is doing. somebody might come across and say, look, this segment may be going down or this person is not doing it an
. >> bill: rice is taking the heat for that the secretary of the united nations. it will be interesting to see who put her out there and told her to say what she said. >> very interesting. >> bill: possible that she said it on her own. it's not unheard of that a u.n. ambassador would do that most likely somebody said look, you have got to get out there and say x and y. hillary clinton is a very shrewd politician. she didn't say anything inadvertently one way or the other about...
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our people and children are not ,, room the kitchen, the united states. as president i directed my administration to step up e efforts, and we have. thatfor the first time, our annual trafficking report now includes cannot ask other nations to do what we are not doing ourselves. we have expanded our task force to include more federal partners, including the fbi. devoting more resources to strengthened protections so workers know their rights. most of all, we are going after and laura en routenew anti- trafficking teams are dismantling their networks. we're putting them where they belong, behind bars. but with more than 20 million victims around the world -- more than 20 million -- we have a lot chiefthat is why this year i directed my administration to increase efforts, and today i can announce a series of additional steps we will take. we will do more to spot it and stop it. of human trafficking in united states so we understand the scope and scale of the problem. we will strengthen training so investigators and law enforcement are better equipped to tak
our people and children are not ,, room the kitchen, the united states. as president i directed my administration to step up e efforts, and we have. thatfor the first time, our annual trafficking report now includes cannot ask other nations to do what we are not doing ourselves. we have expanded our task force to include more federal partners, including the fbi. devoting more resources to strengthened protections so workers know their rights. most of all, we are going after and laura en...
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when she was at the united nations, also said that they knew that al-qaeda had been active in the arabian peninsula. it seems to me that the secretary of state is distancing herself from the white house was saying because if it comes out later in an investigation that the white house or ambassador rice was withholding information about what happened when they knew it there is going to be a problem for this administration. >> paul: just to be clear here. ambassador rice reports to hillary clinton. she is technically part of the state department operations. she made the most clear statements about the association with the video and refused to acknowledge whether or not it was a terrorist attack? >> we don't know who was calling the shots. we do know what they were saying breaks into two separate parts. what they've been saying now suggests they did know early on that al-qaeda was involved in that. i suspect that is probably one of the reasons ambassador stevens was getting active there. it was well known to people in libya that islamic extremists in al-qaeda were getting more active. >> pau
when she was at the united nations, also said that they knew that al-qaeda had been active in the arabian peninsula. it seems to me that the secretary of state is distancing herself from the white house was saying because if it comes out later in an investigation that the white house or ambassador rice was withholding information about what happened when they knew it there is going to be a problem for this administration. >> paul: just to be clear here. ambassador rice reports to hillary...
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new pressure on america's ambassador to the united nations to resign. susan rice facing mounting criticism for statements she made following the deadly attack on the consulate in benghazi, peter king becoming the highest ranking lawmaker to call for her to step down. and congressman king making his case moments ago here on fox news channel. >> if ambassador rice was deliberately misleading the american people and showed a lack of knowledge and sophistication, she shouldn't hold that. the entire administration is wrong and this is the american people, and the world, and she was as spokeswoman, our representative to the world and explaining what happened and virtually everything she said was wrong. >> kelly: with that, we welcome you to a brand new hour of america's election headquarters, i'm kelly wright. >> i'm jamie colby, an interesting new twist to the whole story, congressman king joins a growing list of lawmakers, why ambassador rice initially declared the benghazi attack, a reaction to a protests in cairo over an anti-islam film before acknowledgi
new pressure on america's ambassador to the united nations to resign. susan rice facing mounting criticism for statements she made following the deadly attack on the consulate in benghazi, peter king becoming the highest ranking lawmaker to call for her to step down. and congressman king making his case moments ago here on fox news channel. >> if ambassador rice was deliberately misleading the american people and showed a lack of knowledge and sophistication, she shouldn't hold that. the...
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so, the benefit, the onu is on them and not doing a lot to asuede israel and the united nations. >> jamie: great point. i guess on a week where we're talking about transparency and getting information right and telling the american people the truth, i just was curious if our folks in charge of overseeing this concern are asking the right questions. let me ask you about the prime minister and his discussion and in fact, his board and diagram and red line, effective? >> yeah, i don't think so. you know, the problem israel has, i think it's completely understandable from their point of view, but a lot of their messaging sounds very similar to what we heard in the bush administration in 2007, 2008, warnings that iran was about to be at a critical stage of the nuclear program above the '08 election and now before the 12 election. the big news, the take away from prime minister netanyahu's speech, it moves the critical deadline to spring or summer when he said iran would be able to dark to a nuclear capability without being detected and the previous conventional wisdom that iran-- excuse me tha
so, the benefit, the onu is on them and not doing a lot to asuede israel and the united nations. >> jamie: great point. i guess on a week where we're talking about transparency and getting information right and telling the american people the truth, i just was curious if our folks in charge of overseeing this concern are asking the right questions. let me ask you about the prime minister and his discussion and in fact, his board and diagram and red line, effective? >> yeah, i don't...
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earlier this week, he was at the united nations. he's been hitting the campaign trail hard. he's been dealing with the fallout from the libya attacks. is he finding enough time to even practice for the debates? >> well, you know, craig, to the extent that the command of the issues will make a difference in these debates, you can say he's getting a lot of on the job training, certainly. but to argue your premise a little bit, the president, as far as we know, is, in fact, practicing for those debates. just yesterday, he spent two hours south of the capital, about a mile from here, the democratic national committee headquarters, where we are told, on deep background, that he was, in fact, practicing on those debates. of course, the person who is the mock mitt romney, if you will, john kerry, senator john kerry of massachusetts, he also battle tested. he had his own experience in these debates in 2004. people forget he had a series of epic debates debating a republican governor of massachusetts who challenged him for his senate seat back in 1996. that was bill welles. so it's g
earlier this week, he was at the united nations. he's been hitting the campaign trail hard. he's been dealing with the fallout from the libya attacks. is he finding enough time to even practice for the debates? >> well, you know, craig, to the extent that the command of the issues will make a difference in these debates, you can say he's getting a lot of on the job training, certainly. but to argue your premise a little bit, the president, as far as we know, is, in fact, practicing for...
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alexis, the president when he goes to the united nations, when he keeps talking about the disgusting movie trailer, etc., etc., we keep -- we rightly so break it down and distinguish between radical islamists, those that want to kill us, those that want to wipe israel off the map, and those that are moderate muslims. it's the radicals that attacked us on the anniversary of 9/11. so the president is saying to the american people it's about the movie. this is all predicated on a belief when he goes out and pannedders this way that he can somehow through words get radicals to like us and listen to him. he's already tried this. it hasn't worked. what's so frustrating to me is that this -- he doesn't pander to catholics with the crew fix in urine or the elephant dung on mary. why does he believe that pandering to the radicals will work? help me out. >> i don't see him pangedderring to radicals. the president has the bully pulpit. he's trying to assert -- >> sean: trying? >> -- what america should be. that is the most tolerant of nation -- >> sean: weak. he doesn't apologize to catholics o
alexis, the president when he goes to the united nations, when he keeps talking about the disgusting movie trailer, etc., etc., we keep -- we rightly so break it down and distinguish between radical islamists, those that want to kill us, those that want to wipe israel off the map, and those that are moderate muslims. it's the radicals that attacked us on the anniversary of 9/11. so the president is saying to the american people it's about the movie. this is all predicated on a belief when he...
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ambassador to the united nations. saying that susan rice should, quote, pay the price for failing to initially describe the attack on our consulate in libya as terrorism. >> heather: and japan's industry minister is urging the government energy program. they experienced a massive nuclear meltdown after the tsunami. >> gregg: new concerns in the battleground state of florida where election officials say they have received some rather questionable registration forms submitted on behalf of the state's republican party. senior correspondent eric shawn is live with the latest? >> you know voter registration fraud was a huge scandal in the 2008 presidential race that helped lead to the demise of acorn. now it's expected from forms from a consulting firm working or for the republican party. that company allied consulting had been fired by the national republican committee after hundred signatures showed up in palm beach county florida that are allegedly fraudulent. they blame one employee for listing a statement that said, w
ambassador to the united nations. saying that susan rice should, quote, pay the price for failing to initially describe the attack on our consulate in libya as terrorism. >> heather: and japan's industry minister is urging the government energy program. they experienced a massive nuclear meltdown after the tsunami. >> gregg: new concerns in the battleground state of florida where election officials say they have received some rather questionable registration forms submitted on...
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the greatest nation on earth. >> the great debate five days away. why romney has to win and why obama can't afford to lose. i'll talk to my political a-team. also, bibi and the bomb. >> a red line should be drawn right here. >> after dropping this on the u.n. yesterday, he talks to obama and romney today. what israel's line in the sand would mean for all of us. plus, have you seen chelsea lately? >> nobody knows what the hell they're getting into when they're running for president. >> one of my favorites guests is back. >> i'm single, yes. >> if men are watching this -- >> yeah, i'm available. you know, just call me maybe. >> funny, feisty as ever, with a new look for her talk show. this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. the big story, the great debate. in just five days the event that could change the race for the white use permanently. the clock is ticking and the candidates know it. they meet face-to-face on wednesday. this weekend, both will be locked behind closed doors in practice sparring sessions. romney has listed senator rob por
the greatest nation on earth. >> the great debate five days away. why romney has to win and why obama can't afford to lose. i'll talk to my political a-team. also, bibi and the bomb. >> a red line should be drawn right here. >> after dropping this on the u.n. yesterday, he talks to obama and romney today. what israel's line in the sand would mean for all of us. plus, have you seen chelsea lately? >> nobody knows what the hell they're getting into when they're running for...
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i think this is a chance for canada and the united states to up our game and demonstrate that commitment in tangible ways. i am again personally very grateful for the strong working relationship that we have enjoyed and continue to enjoy. having hosted you in canada along with our counterparts as well the many nato meetings we have attended in brussels but in other locations as well like you are hosting in chicago this past summer and throughout, throughout both and i dare say we have seen the defense relationship reach new heights. so once again secretary panetta i really do appreciate your leadership, your friendship and your advice because i know one of the areas where canada does hope to establish greater credentials if i could put it that way, is in the pacific and so we take very close note of the recent decisions and pronouncements that is made about the united states intentions to continue their presence in the pacific and canada is similarly -- so thank you once again. [inaudible] >> secretary panetta do you agree with prime minister netanyahu to the red line literally yesterday
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nations is locking up all of our natural resources, mandating what we can and cannot do. how much of this that goes to our water system now is going to the un? guest: the unid nations headquarters is based in new york city, so they get water from the new york water system and they get it the same way that everybody else gets it in the area. host: the system in new york -- i -- is it strictly a gravity- based system? is it all just running down from the catskills into new york city? or at what point does it have to be pumped to the various distribution points? guest: the way it works is mainly it is gravity. you have a very large reservoir system in the catskills, and it flows downhill. jimmy breslin, who worked at "the new york daily news" for many years of wrote a very good book years ago and talked about the new york reservoir system, and it was one of the great marbles. a lot of people who worked on that had the foresight of being able to get water to a large metropolis, and we have the benefit of that today, but it mainly flows downhill, and it comes in through a big
nations is locking up all of our natural resources, mandating what we can and cannot do. how much of this that goes to our water system now is going to the un? guest: the unid nations headquarters is based in new york city, so they get water from the new york water system and they get it the same way that everybody else gets it in the area. host: the system in new york -- i -- is it strictly a gravity- based system? is it all just running down from the catskills into new york city? or at what...
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he could vote on the national ticket five times. so if you're in a national audience watching on -- watching on c-span to come to the nixon library. here's my presidential trivia. there are only four colleges in the united states which have graduated presidents and starting quarterbacks in the super bowl. what are those? so good thinking right now. i'll give you the easiest one of wall. the united states naval academy. jimmy carter. that's pretty easy. the university of michigan which i already mentioned, gerald ford and some pretty. of course the starting quarterback for the navy was roger stop back. and if you think, california, it's pretty easy to come up with stanford for much harder graduated and promote jim and john denver graduated, but starting quarterback in the super bowl. then last one is really hard but have given you a clue. have already said his last name. benjamin harrison who matriculated at miami university of ohio and who is a quarterback , been in office burger of that team purpose per that shall not otherwise be
he could vote on the national ticket five times. so if you're in a national audience watching on -- watching on c-span to come to the nixon library. here's my presidential trivia. there are only four colleges in the united states which have graduated presidents and starting quarterbacks in the super bowl. what are those? so good thinking right now. i'll give you the easiest one of wall. the united states naval academy. jimmy carter. that's pretty easy. the university of michigan which i already...
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>> i generally see the prime minister when he's in the united states. i have shown it to his national security advisor. >> you know him well. how will he react to this? >> well, i hope he will react positively. he will react as any prime minister would, somewhat skeptically after abbas' speech at the u.n. yesterday which was just terrible, just attack after attack after attack, and no opportunity to really reconcile, but he speaks differently to the world audience, to the u.n. and to folks like me. >> to be fair, i watched netanyahu's speech. he barely mentioned the palestinian peace process. he gave it piecemeal. he was much more focused on ahmadinejad and iran. >> look, the palestinians do not pose an existential threat to israel. i think they should resolve this issue in a two-state solution. iran, one bomb could destroy israel as one of the heads of iran recently said. if one bomb were dropped on israel it would destroy israel forever. israel might retaliate and kill 10 or 20 million muslims but there are 110 million of them. so israel has to put th
>> i generally see the prime minister when he's in the united states. i have shown it to his national security advisor. >> you know him well. how will he react to this? >> well, i hope he will react positively. he will react as any prime minister would, somewhat skeptically after abbas' speech at the u.n. yesterday which was just terrible, just attack after attack after attack, and no opportunity to really reconcile, but he speaks differently to the world audience, to the u.n....
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so history shows us that building a democratic and secure nation is hard. it takes patience and persistence and it requires strong and smart leadership. an important lesson that i learned from nine turns in the united state congress and trips to many states in transition is that their leaders have to want to move to a pluralist democracy more than their outside supporters want them to. president hadi has made it clear that he wants to build a democratic with a small d. and pluralistic country. he was sworn in as president of yemen in february after running the country single candidate election with 9010.6% of the vote. the election was the last part of the international brokered accord that provided former president saleh with immunity in exchange for his agreement to step down after more than three decades in power and they hear a mass protest in the country. perhaps this peaceful transition to serve as a model for syria, something many of us are urging. as the leader of this country, president hadi i thought with the building blocks for a peaceful future.
so history shows us that building a democratic and secure nation is hard. it takes patience and persistence and it requires strong and smart leadership. an important lesson that i learned from nine turns in the united state congress and trips to many states in transition is that their leaders have to want to move to a pluralist democracy more than their outside supporters want them to. president hadi has made it clear that he wants to build a democratic with a small d. and pluralistic country....
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ambassador to the united nations susan rice had said earlier it was a spontaneous attack over an anti-muslim film and that there were no extremists involved, but now with the new information, new york congressman peter king is calling for rice to step down. here's what he told our wolf blitzer. >> too much things to go wrong and everyone forgets about it the next day. i think we have to send a clear message and on such a flight issue as this, an american ambassador was killed and by all the accumulation of evidence at the time the prezumption had to be it was terrorism. i can see why they wanted to say it's too early to say it's definitively terrorism but to rule out terrorism and say it was not terrorism at that time, to me, was a terrible mistake to make whether it was intentionally or unintentionally. i believe she should resign, yes. >> the white house is standing by rice at her statements were based on information they had at the time. and it was not intended to mislead people. according to white house officials. >>> now to the crisis in syria. the u.s. is warning iran to stop providing
ambassador to the united nations susan rice had said earlier it was a spontaneous attack over an anti-muslim film and that there were no extremists involved, but now with the new information, new york congressman peter king is calling for rice to step down. here's what he told our wolf blitzer. >> too much things to go wrong and everyone forgets about it the next day. i think we have to send a clear message and on such a flight issue as this, an american ambassador was killed and by all...
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if the united nations gets its way the united states tax me g.e.d.en could go global. >> just how friendly are our skies? "fox & friends" begins right now. snet ♪ >> good saturday morning, everyone. welcome in to "fox & friends" on this early fall morning. coming up in just about a half an hour we are going to talk about whether or not spanking should be considered a form of child abuse. one state is actually moving, perhaps, to make it that way. you could be locked up as a result of it. >> looking forward to that debate. we will answer that question. which one of us three is the funniest reporter in new york? we'll not give you any clues. >> no clues. >> i said no -- >> more on that later on in the program. >> meanwhile the top story, the news that has consumed us for the better part of two weeks now. that is what happened in benghazi? why was the message coming out of the administration so muddled at best and misleading at worse? when did they know that it was a terrorist attack? why won't the president actually use the term terrorist attack? well, yesterday there was a major break thr
if the united nations gets its way the united states tax me g.e.d.en could go global. >> just how friendly are our skies? "fox & friends" begins right now. snet ♪ >> good saturday morning, everyone. welcome in to "fox & friends" on this early fall morning. coming up in just about a half an hour we are going to talk about whether or not spanking should be considered a form of child abuse. one state is actually moving, perhaps, to make it that way. you...
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. >> this took place when the united nations general assembly was in town. here you are asking police what you're being arrested for. what were you charged with? >> eventually -- i wasn't told on the spot. i was neither read my rights nor was i told what i was being arrested for. but later at one of the precincts where i was held, and before i was taken to central booking, i was told i was charged with criminal mischief, making graffiti and possessing a graffiti instrument. i was after 22 hours arraigned before a judge and i'm supposed to return in november to see whether i will be put on trial on these charges or not. >> do you think that spray painting this particular ad was a form of peaceful disobedience? was that what you were trying to sort of -- the message you were trying to send? >> my two messages were this, that i believe the poster is freedom of expression and i believe what i did was a freedom of expression in answer to that. i chose a very nonviolent peaceful method. i mean, i chose the color pink. you don't get more peaceful and nonviolent tha
. >> this took place when the united nations general assembly was in town. here you are asking police what you're being arrested for. what were you charged with? >> eventually -- i wasn't told on the spot. i was neither read my rights nor was i told what i was being arrested for. but later at one of the precincts where i was held, and before i was taken to central booking, i was told i was charged with criminal mischief, making graffiti and possessing a graffiti instrument. i was...
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so keeping the money behind national borders instead of funneling it to the united nations which, again, we are the largest. >> right. as if redistribution isn't already happening by us providing billions of dollars a year to the u.n. right? >> yes, correct, dave, thank you. [ laughter ] coming up, here is an issue we hope you will will find us on twitter and weigh in. is spanking your child, is it child abuse? one state says it could be. they are trying to ban any physical pain from children. it could include parents spanking their children. should that be up to the parents to decide. >> recent polls show president obama pulling ahead of mitt romney in ohio. do the numbers match up with what the buckeye state is seeing? we'll explore after this. [ owner ] i need to expand to meet the needs of my growing business. but how am i going to fund it? and i have to find a way to manage my cash flow better. [ female announcer ] our wells fargo bankers are here to listen, offer guidance and provide you with options tailored to your business. we've loaned more money to small businesses than any o
so keeping the money behind national borders instead of funneling it to the united nations which, again, we are the largest. >> right. as if redistribution isn't already happening by us providing billions of dollars a year to the u.n. right? >> yes, correct, dave, thank you. [ laughter ] coming up, here is an issue we hope you will will find us on twitter and weigh in. is spanking your child, is it child abuse? one state says it could be. they are trying to ban any physical pain...
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. >> you are referring to netanyahu's speech before the united nations general assembly which he held up a much-mocked cartoon bomb and talked about iran. the deeper issue is that the focus on iran has conveniently meant that international focus particularly in the west and u.s. is not on the occupied territories. we don't pay attention to the west unless there is violence and what we are doing is producing extremely perverse incentives. if we don't pay attention when they are acting nonviolent, my thanks to gentleman mila con, joe wisen that you will, mike paska and bill fletcher, author of "they're bankrupting us" 20 other myths about unions. thanks for getting up. thanks for joining us on "up." tomorrow, i will have jeffrey toobin and mona eltahawi on her arrest for spray painting over an anti-islam poster. coming up, melissa harris perry. this week looks at voter i.d. laws. how is anyone expected to keep up? that's melissa harris-perry coming up next. thank you for getting up. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed
. >> you are referring to netanyahu's speech before the united nations general assembly which he held up a much-mocked cartoon bomb and talked about iran. the deeper issue is that the focus on iran has conveniently meant that international focus particularly in the west and u.s. is not on the occupied territories. we don't pay attention to the west unless there is violence and what we are doing is producing extremely perverse incentives. if we don't pay attention when they are acting...
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and if we ignore it, god help the united states of america. >> recently at the national convention, republicans called for a constitutional amendment banning all abortions with no exceptions for rape or incest. where do you stand on this proposal and why? >> i trust women to make that decision. there are a lot better ways to reduce the number of abortions. we got to think about why our law enforcement community -- our working mothers are in trouble. we have to get prenatal care for them. we have too many children coming into kindergarten behind, and if we lose them in kindergarten, we lose them forever. 2500 kids in a program here in omaha are provided refuge that are being sexually abused in their own home. we got to pay attention to them, and we got to help them and the moms and the community leaders who are trying to help this problem. i do not think we should regulate women in making these decisions. it does not stop there. there is lots more that needs done to make sure that that children have a fair and decent opportunity to live to their full potential. >> i am pro life. i believe in the
and if we ignore it, god help the united states of america. >> recently at the national convention, republicans called for a constitutional amendment banning all abortions with no exceptions for rape or incest. where do you stand on this proposal and why? >> i trust women to make that decision. there are a lot better ways to reduce the number of abortions. we got to think about why our law enforcement community -- our working mothers are in trouble. we have to get prenatal care for...
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and the national recovery month is in its 23rd year. this month acknowledges and celebrates recovery from addiction and mental illness, of advances int science -- through evidence based practices and thousands upon thousands of united voices of recovery across the country. recovery has captured an audience and is rallying in nations. about this time two years ago leaders and the liberal health field, consisting of people in recovery from mental health and substance abuse, met -- in on these efforts and in consultation with many stakeholders, samhsa has come up with a working definition and set of principles for recovery. i invite you to go on for .samhsa.gov.ww defining it has been a true process. now we are working with persons and recovery for mental illness and substance abuse to articulate the differences. as well as the commonalities of these respective prophecies. we agree on the guiding principles to recovery through terms and concepts such as hope pacs, a person driven, a holistic work. many pathways, relational, culture, addres
and the national recovery month is in its 23rd year. this month acknowledges and celebrates recovery from addiction and mental illness, of advances int science -- through evidence based practices and thousands upon thousands of united voices of recovery across the country. recovery has captured an audience and is rallying in nations. about this time two years ago leaders and the liberal health field, consisting of people in recovery from mental health and substance abuse, met -- in on these...